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Gong Forum / Re: LynxGong purring
« on: March 11, 2018, 11:07:33 AM »
Welcome back!  8)

In addition to the other fine comments and suggestions, I was just thinking that you might experiment with different placements of your gongs, especially if the room is fairly 'live'.

While 'aiming' the gongs straight at the audience seems like the most obvious method, it might work better to angle the gongs toward the walls at 45 degrees or what ever angle works best, even though this may see counter intuitive.

I'm thinking that in a very large hall with lots of people, the front of the audience is going to absorb a lot of the sound but if you can get more energy to reflect off the walls it might help fill the room better?

It might also be interesting to try mounting one of your gongs horizontally so you can get better transmissions along the floor and ceiling but this obviously has several down sides like the risk of drilling two more holes in the gong, the change in playing response of a gong mounted that way and it will make it harder for the audience to see, etc.

None of these ideas will help much if the room is really dead with lots of curtains, carpet, and other treatments though.

One last thought, is that if at all possible try setting up in the center of the venue so that the sound doesn't have to travel as far to reach the most distant audience member.

Best of luck! :-)

Gong Photos & Videos / Re: Concert photo
« on: February 17, 2018, 03:43:12 AM »
And thank you Rob for my new awesome computer-desktop wallpaper!  ;D

Gong Photos & Videos / Re: Concert photo
« on: February 16, 2018, 07:44:34 AM »
Wow! Great collection, sweet setup, and lovely picture!  8)

Gong Photos & Videos / Re: O M G! 90" Paiste Earth (?) Gong at NAMM!!!!
« on: February 14, 2018, 06:12:26 AM »
Even at low volume - an amazing sound. I happened to be there when Erik Paiste was playing it. The sound was awesome!
Sweet!  8)  I really wanted to play it longer and louder but  . . . I didn't want to abuse the privilege!

I wonder how many NAMM sound violations the Piaste booth received this year?  ;D

Gong Photos & Videos / O M G! 90" Paiste Earth (?) Gong at NAMM!!!!
« on: February 05, 2018, 12:04:04 AM »
Yes, and I got to briefly play it!  8) I have so many questions now but I was too excited at the time to think straight! The story I was told by the Paiste rep is that it was commissioned by some TV show that got canceled (or decided not to use it?) I assumed at first it was an 80" but was told it is 90"! I didn't specifically ask if it was an Earth gong but it looks like one to me. I only struck it about 4 times, light to medium . . . I could have easily spent hours exploring it  . . . .<swoon> . . . .

Gong Forum / Re: Gong gut vs synthetic cord
« on: December 10, 2017, 02:22:39 AM »
I haven't done any scientific comparisons but I prefer nylon rope and paracord over gut.

Reasons I like nylon:
* I can tie a simple knot and then melt it and it wont come undone. I don't trust my knot tying skills!  ;)
* It wont make an audible sound vibrating against the gong, unless the hard surface of the melted knot is touching the gong surface.
* It usually looks worn and frayed long before it completely fails
* Easy to find at any hardware store or large variety store. Important especially if you need a replacement right before a gig!
* It feels nicer to the touch and comes in different colors!  ::) ;D

Concerns over nylon:
At least for me, I tend to use the largest size that will fit through the holes and I worry that the soft rope is dampening the gong vibrations a little?

Thoughts about gut:
* Has worked fine for many thousands of gongs for hundreds of years! If nylon was significantly better then gut, Paiste would have probably switched by now?  8)
* Traditional look
* Have gotten some unwanted sound from gut vibrating against the gong. (usually only with smaller/lighter gongs)
* I'm assuming gut is less likely to dampen the gong then nylon rope may?
* In my formative years (high school) I witnessed a sudden catastrophic failure of the gut a Paiste Symphonic (28" or 32"?) was hung with. Of course high school band instruments are often abused and rarely maintained carefully but it seemed that the sharp edge of the hole had slowly and cleanly worn through the gut over many years and the damage wasn't obvious at a causal glance. (not that we really knew what to look for or bothered back then!  ;D)
* Knots tied with gut don't look or feel secure to me (although I may just not know how to tie a proper knot with gut!)

Gong Forum / Re: Thai gong
« on: October 24, 2017, 02:07:10 PM »
Cool, I'll look forward to seeing pictures of what you get if it's something you want to share.

Gong Market / Re: Used Paiste 50" Symphonic
« on: October 24, 2017, 02:05:19 PM »
Ahhhhh! Don't tempt me!  ;D

Gong Forum / Re: Thai gong
« on: October 23, 2017, 11:09:29 PM »
Ahh, cool. Are you going to go gong shopping in Germany for something in particular or you just want to be prepared in case you see something you 'must have"? ;-)

Gong Market / Re: Used Paiste 50" Symphonic
« on: October 23, 2017, 11:00:15 PM »
 ;D  I'm just glad it's not closer (it's a 2 - 3 hour round trip depending on traffic).

Gong Market / Used Paiste 50" Symphonic
« on: October 18, 2017, 03:50:53 AM »
Not my gong and not my store and I haven't heard or played it but I thought someone here might be interested? $7999 (plus shipping if needed, it's in Bellevue WA USA, Seattle area)

I look at the add occasionally, but there is no way I can afford it at the moment and I keep hoping someone will buy it so I can forget about it! ;-)

Gong Forum / Re: Thai gong
« on: October 06, 2017, 12:04:43 AM »
Did you end up getting this gong, Paul?

Gong Mallets / Re: Fleet mallets..
« on: July 01, 2017, 01:18:57 AM »
Yes, quite a good deal on those, thanks again!

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