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Gong Forum / Re: Gong gut vs synthetic cord
« on: December 10, 2017, 02:22:39 AM »
I haven't done any scientific comparisons but I prefer nylon rope and paracord over gut.

Reasons I like nylon:
* I can tie a simple knot and then melt it and it wont come undone. I don't trust my knot tying skills!  ;)
* It wont make an audible sound vibrating against the gong, unless the hard surface of the melted knot is touching the gong surface.
* It usually looks worn and frayed long before it completely fails
* Easy to find at any hardware store or large variety store. Important especially if you need a replacement right before a gig!
* It feels nicer to the touch and comes in different colors!  ::) ;D

Concerns over nylon:
At least for me, I tend to use the largest size that will fit through the holes and I worry that the soft rope is dampening the gong vibrations a little?

Thoughts about gut:
* Has worked fine for many thousands of gongs for hundreds of years! If nylon was significantly better then gut, Paiste would have probably switched by now?  8)
* Traditional look
* Have gotten some unwanted sound from gut vibrating against the gong. (usually only with smaller/lighter gongs)
* I'm assuming gut is less likely to dampen the gong then nylon rope may?
* In my formative years (high school) I witnessed a sudden catastrophic failure of the gut a Paiste Symphonic (28" or 32"?) was hung with. Of course high school band instruments are often abused and rarely maintained carefully but it seemed that the sharp edge of the hole had slowly and cleanly worn through the gut over many years and the damage wasn't obvious at a causal glance. (not that we really knew what to look for or bothered back then!  ;D)
* Knots tied with gut don't look or feel secure to me (although I may just not know how to tie a proper knot with gut!)

Gong Forum / Re: Thai gong
« on: October 24, 2017, 02:07:10 PM »
Cool, I'll look forward to seeing pictures of what you get if it's something you want to share.

Gong Market / Re: Used Paiste 50" Symphonic
« on: October 24, 2017, 02:05:19 PM »
Ahhhhh! Don't tempt me!  ;D

Gong Forum / Re: Thai gong
« on: October 23, 2017, 11:09:29 PM »
Ahh, cool. Are you going to go gong shopping in Germany for something in particular or you just want to be prepared in case you see something you 'must have"? ;-)

Gong Market / Re: Used Paiste 50" Symphonic
« on: October 23, 2017, 11:00:15 PM »
 ;D  I'm just glad it's not closer (it's a 2 - 3 hour round trip depending on traffic).

Gong Market / Used Paiste 50" Symphonic
« on: October 18, 2017, 03:50:53 AM »
Not my gong and not my store and I haven't heard or played it but I thought someone here might be interested? $7999 (plus shipping if needed, it's in Bellevue WA USA, Seattle area)

I look at the add occasionally, but there is no way I can afford it at the moment and I keep hoping someone will buy it so I can forget about it! ;-)

Gong Forum / Re: Thai gong
« on: October 06, 2017, 12:04:43 AM »
Did you end up getting this gong, Paul?

Gong Mallets / Re: Fleet mallets..
« on: July 01, 2017, 01:18:57 AM »
Yes, quite a good deal on those, thanks again!

Gong Photos & Videos / Re: My Humble Gong Wall
« on: June 21, 2017, 11:26:18 AM »
OK, phase 2 is finally done! I have the left and right wings completed and the gongs mounted. I should have gone to bed hours ago but I was so close to finishing I pushed on through.  ;D

The wings open and close smoothly and it's about 20" or or so deep when fully folded closed.

Gong Photos & Videos / Re: My Humble Gong Wall
« on: June 21, 2017, 03:37:32 AM »
Thanks Paul! I have some similar clamps, sort of, that I use for my lighting (Manfrotto Super Clamps, see attached pic) and they would be a lot nicer but I have a big pile of the other cheaper truss clamps I'm using for the gongs and I'll finish off the setup with them and see how well they hold up. 

Gong Mallets / Re: Fleet mallets..
« on: June 21, 2017, 03:19:30 AM »
Did you get yours yet, Paul? I got mine today and I think they are quite nice! Nicely weighted and good for striking medium to largish gongs and for rolling on large gongs.  I've only tried them for a minute so we'll see over time if my opinion changes. ;) Thanks again for the hot tip!  8)

Gong Photos & Videos / Re: My Humble Gong Wall
« on: June 17, 2017, 02:03:43 AM »
Thanks PipeGong!  8)

The pipe is 3/4" and there is a total of 24 screws into the floor and wall so I doubt it could ever fall. The jury is still out on those clamps I used to hang the gongs with though. I think they will be OK but I keep thinking there may be something better?

Gong Photos & Videos / My Humble Gong Wall
« on: June 17, 2017, 12:58:36 AM »
Phase 1 complete!  :)

So after many years of deciding how to hang a majority of my gongs in my little studio I finally decided about a year ago to make a big pipe structure where my big  modular synth used to sit and I've finally committed to actually doing it!  ;D

The main part is done and supports the 44" chau and 36" wind gongs. The next step will be to make the two movable side wings that will hold some of the 20" through 28" gongs. And the final step will be to find places for as many of the 15" and smaller gongs as possible.

Gong Cafe / Re: 52" chau tam tam arriving wednesday...
« on: June 14, 2017, 07:17:13 AM »
Excellent PipeGong! No problem with the response time, I was just starting to worry that you and your wife might have gotten trapped underneath it when trying to move it or something! ;-)

Side Note: This may be a well known technique but I've found with my "little" 44 inch :D chau that the deepest hammer dents can generate some very focused tones. If I prime it a little with a large mallet and then use a friction mallet to make many short strokes (typically 5 to 20) in the dent area I can get a high pitched resonance going, sometimes sounding like PA feedback or similar. I'll try to make a decent demo video of this at some point. Try it with your 52", I bet it has MANY secret sounds hiding within it just waiting to be coaxed out! 

Gong Photos & Videos / Re: More Kulingtang.
« on: June 09, 2017, 05:25:05 PM »
Wow, great price indeed!  :o

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